金剛上師林鈺堂瑜伽士開示錄
為信仰其它宗教者修頗瓦
Performing Powa service for people of other religions
From: Yutang Lin
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:52 AM
To: Dharma Friends
Subject: RE: Chinese Version of a Q&A on Performing Powa service for people of other religions
Disciple Jia De sent in the following response, once again showing the harmony in faith of Buddhism and Catholics.
弟子家德傳來以下的回應，再一次的顯示佛教與天主教徒信仰的和諧。
Detong, add this to the posted version.
茶桶，增入這個到網頁版。
May all beings attain Enlightenment soon!
願一切眾生早日成佛！
Yutang
鈺堂
From:peter
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:36 PM
To: 林 上師
Subject: RE: Chinese Version of a Q&A on Performing Powa service for people of other religions
敬愛的上師, 向
您頂禮致敬.
看過這篇文章,弟子亦想將個人經驗向您報告:弟子父親年近八十,受洗信奉天主教已40餘年,在我記億中每星期從未間斷去教堂作禮拜,
剛退休時甚至每日上教堂,最近身體較差,教堂遠而僅週日前往禮拜.他信天主非常虔誠,並告訴我在四十歲時心臟病發住院治療時,曾見過聖母瑪利亞.
後來康復出院,信仰更為虔誠.
但很有趣的是,近年來他竟然也隨我母親皈依佛教並受戒,除了同我母親朝山,拜懺,念佛外,仍然固定上教堂作禮拜,他認為此兩個宗教並不衝突,
而他最常唸的是觀世音菩薩;另弟子從小就是同父親每週日上教堂,隨後受洗,上主日道理班,甚至在國中做了近兩年輔祭,卻也是在大學信了佛教.
弟子父親作為虔誠的天主教徒,最後也成為虔誠的佛教徒,正好與此篇文章的經驗呼應,特向上師秉告.
弟子家德
-----Original Message-----
From: Yutang Lin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:58 PM
To: Dharma Friends
Subject: Chinese Version of a Q&A on Performing Powa service for people of other religions_
一篇請益類之〈為信仰其它宗教者修頗瓦 〉的中文版。
Disciple Detong had translated a Q&A on Performing Powa service for
people of other religions into Chinese.
I have revised the work and highlighted my revisions in yellow.
弟子茶桶已將一篇請益類之〈為信仰其它宗教者修頗瓦 〉譯成中文。
我已經校閱此篇並將我校訂的地方以黃色標示出來。
One file attached. It also contains the English original.
一檔案附呈，此檔案亦包含英文原作。
May all beings attain Enlightenment soon!
願一切眾生早日成佛！
Yutang
鈺堂
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From: Yutang Lin
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 7:06 AM
To: 'Juan Bulnes'
Subject: RE: Powa for People of Other Religions_為信仰其它宗教者修頗瓦
Thanks to Juan for sharing his experiences on this topic with us.
感謝百肋與我們分享關於此主題的個人經驗。
This email is Bcc to all on my list.
此電郵以密件傳給我名單中所有的人。
May all beings attain Enlightenment soon!
願一切眾生早日成佛！
Yutang
鈺堂
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From: Juan Bulnes
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 2:09 PM
To: Yutang Lin
Subject: Re: Powa for People of Other Religions_為信仰其它宗教者修頗瓦
Yutang,
鈺堂，
the experiences I had when you did Powa service for my ancestors, suggest that Catholics welcome the service.
當您為我祖先修頗瓦時我有的經驗顯示天主教徒歡迎此服務。
So did some experiences with the service in Chilean cemeteries as well as US cemeteries.
有些在智利墳場及美國墳場修此法時的經驗也如此顯示。
As for live Catholics among friends and family in Chile, I have found remarkable respect for Buddhism, often so among the most religious of them.
至於在智利的朋友及親族間尚存活的天主教徒，我發現他們對佛教有相當的敬重，並且往往是其中最虔誠的那幾位。
None of them took offense when I've said something like "I will commend your such and such (just deceased) family member for a Buddhist prayer to help him be at peace" (or whatever words were appropriate at that moment).
當我說，例如：「我會舉薦您的某某（剛辭世）親人接受佛教的祈禱來幫助他得到安息」(或任何當時恰當的用語) 時，他們當中沒有人會反感。
Inevitably, many Catholics mix up the little they know about Buddhism with their perceptions about Hinduism. When I see this happen, I say "Jesus was born in Judaism, but Christianity is not Judaism". "Yes, VERY different", they reply. And I say "so it is between Buddhism and Hinduism".
無可避免地，許多天主教徒將他們所知的佛教皮毛與他們對印度教的認知混淆起來。當我看到這種情況的時候，我說：「耶穌生於猶太教，但基督教並不是猶太教」。「是的，非常不同」，他們回覆。接著我就說：「佛教與印度教之間，亦復如此。」
The more difficult case are non-believers, I found that non-believers often take offense that someone is (they feel) "forcing superstition on them". In some cases, when offering a Powa service for a deceased atheist relative, some of them feel that you are insulting the memory of their deceased relative. Even though they believe the deceased has ceased to exist, they tend to feel that your compassion for his suffering is patronizing. I have found it is difficult to make a religious connection with atheists.
更困難的例子是沒有信仰者，我發覺沒有信仰者常會對於有人(他們覺得)在強迫他們接受迷信而起反感。有時，當為一位已逝的無神論的親戚提供頗瓦的服務時，他們當中有些人會感覺到你是在侮辱對他們已故親人的回憶。雖然他們相信死者已不復存在，他們往往感到你對他的痛苦的慈悲是高傲的。我發現很難與無神論者建立宗教性的聯結。
Best regards,
最懇切的問候，
Juan
百肋
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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Yutang Lin wrote:
A Buddhist raised the question, whether we need to add people who had faith in other religions onto the Powa service list, and my reply is as follows:
一位佛友提問：我們是否需要將信仰其他宗教的人列入頗瓦服務的名單中？而我的回覆如下：
The help from Powa is a lift to more purity in the spiritual realm, so it actually has no bearings on worldly distinction of this or that religion.
頗瓦的助益是在靈界更為淨化的一種提昇，因此，實際上它與世間的這個或那個宗教的區別無關。
Furthermore, such help cannot be forced onto someone, so if a deceased being does not want it, it will not affect the being. Hence, no need to worry about forcing it against someone's religious preferences.
再者，此類的協助不可能強加於人，因此如果亡者並不想要領受，也不會影響到他。所以，不需要擔心會不顧及某人的宗教信仰而強制接受修此法。
In addition, beings' comprehension will change and become more comprehensive after they left the physical sphere; therefore, it is quite possible that after death they would welcome the help from Powa even though in life they did not. So I recommend that all deceased beings be entered onto the list.
此外，眾生的理解會改變，並且在他們離開了物質界以後，會變得更能理解。因此，很有可能，即使生前他們不了解，死後他們仍會歡迎頗瓦的幫助。所以我建議將所有亡者都列入修此法的名單中。
This email will be posted as one among the Collection of Inquiries for
Teachings, and also listed on the Powa request page.
此電郵將上傳到我們的請益類，並列入請求頗瓦超渡的網頁中。
May all beings attain Enlightenment soon!
願一切眾生早日成佛！
Yutang
鈺堂
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